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Alongside this view, there is a another theory, initially presented by D. Anastasievic (and subsequently shared by the historians from the present-day Republic of Macedonia), which questions the Bulgarian character of Samuil's empire and suggests that it was a Slav state, in particularMacedonian Slav state. The theory is centred around a short note by Byzantine historian John Skilitsa saying that after the death of Tsar Peter I, his sons, Boris II and Roman (held until then as hostages in Constantinople), were sent back to Bulgaria in order to hinder the Comitopulis from stirring the people to revolt. The note is dated to the end of 969 or to 970, when northeastern Bulgaria with the capital of Preslav were occupied by Prince Sviatoslav of the Kievan Rus', who also had established a capital south of the Danube, in the Bulgarian town of Pereyaslavets. The riot of the Comitopulis is consequently viewed as a revolt of the Macedonian Slavs against the Bulgarians. The other argument quoted by the supporters of the theory is that a part of the core of the state of Samuil was the present-day region of Macedonia. The multitude of other sources which refer to the empire of Samuil as to Bulgaria and to him as a Bulgarian Tsar are explained in one way or another, depending on the context. The recognition of Samuil as a Bulgarian Tsar by the Pope is, for example, explained by the practice of the Roman Pope to give a title to the crown which was identified with the territory of an already recognized empire, and Samuil's Empire extended over the territory of the Bulgarian Empire which had collapsed. According to the supporters of the theory, this was equivalent to the Byzantines calling themselves “Romans” and their empire the Roman Empire.

The critics of this Slav theory have asserted that its supporters are interpreting Skilitsa extremely frivolously (who never stated that the intended riot of Comitopulis had an ethnic character or mentioned Macedonian Slavs or Macedonians in his chronicles) and that they are presupposing that such a revolt was directed against the Bulgarian administration as such, which according to them, did not exist at the time. Northeastern Bulgaria was in Russian hands after the death of Tsar Peter I and Peter's successor, Boris II was nothing more than a Russian puppet during his short-lived reign. It is furthermore pointed out that Samuil was the son of the Bulgarian provincial governor of Sredets (the present-day region of Sofia), and it was Sredets that was the original centre of the riot, with Macedonia becoming a political centre as late as the late 970s when Roman settled in Skopje, making it a temporary capital of the tsardom.

Basil II
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Painting of Basil II, from an 11th century manuscript.Basil II "Bulgaroktonus" (in Greek Basilios Bulgaroktonos, written #914;#945;#963;#943;#955;#949;#953;#959;#962; #914;#959;#965;#955;#947;#945;#961;#959;#954;#964;#972;#957;#959;#962;, (en) "The Bulgar-Slayer" (958 – December 15, 1025)) Byzantine emperor (January 10, 976 – December 15, 1025) led the Byzantine Empire to its greatest heights in nearly five centuries. However, he left no worthy heir and most of his achievements were undone by a long line of weak successors.

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Мапа на Византиjа во 11 век после падането на Самоиловата држава. Види се дека е Бугариjа и дека е Македониjа. na_Kateto_duhot
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Originally posted by Unicor777

Bi sakal da slushnam edna makedonska pesna za Tito? Opeana na makedonski jazik, navistina bi bilo interestno.

Bugarskoto carstvo propadnalo pred prop[asta na Samuil, so slabeenjeto na Bugarskoto carstvo se stvoril prostor za Makedonskoto (pardon ako navrediv nekogo) Samuilovoto

Ok, decki imam nekolku prasanja vo vrska so Samuil:

1. Roden e 958, kade?

2. Bil pismen, koj go opismenil?



ti si nepismen, mojto momche A ti si reBANirana samo uste ne si svesna za toa. Imas 48hrs. sama da se izgubis od VM vo sprotivno ke te izgurime na podolgo vreme.
JR

1. ne se znae ni koga ni deka tochno e roden Samuil
2. opismenil go e istiot, koy ni e opismenil site nas /i moite i tvoite predci, kolko i da ti e neprijatno/- knezot na Bugarija Boris I

Site ivzori za Samuil ukazhuvat deka negovata dvrazha e prodolzhenie i priemnik na drzavata na Simeon i Petar. Bugarite sa sloveni i hrustiani sled krayot na 9 vek

Ni eden izvor ne ukazhuva za nekakvi si makedonci, makedonska drzvava i makedonski car. Ni eden, tova e izmisleno sled 1945 vo Jugoslavia so cel pranje na mozoci.


 Enigma
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Originally posted by na_Kateto_duhot

quote:
Originally posted by Unicor777

Bi sakal da slushnam edna makedonska pesna za Tito? Opeana na makedonski jazik, navistina bi bilo interestno.

Bugarskoto carstvo propadnalo pred prop[asta na Samuil, so slabeenjeto na Bugarskoto carstvo se stvoril prostor za Makedonskoto (pardon ako navrediv nekogo) Samuilovoto

Ok, decki imam nekolku prasanja vo vrska so Samuil:

1. Roden e 958, kade?

2. Bil pismen, koj go opismenil?



ti si nepismen, mojto momche A ti si reBANirana samo uste ne si svesna za toa. Imas 48hrs. sama da se izgubis od VM vo sprotivno ke te izgurime na podolgo vreme.
JR

1. ne se znae ni koga ni deka tochno e roden Samuil
2. opismenil go e istiot, koy ni e opismenil site nas /i moite i tvoite predci, kolko i da ti e neprijatno/- knezot na Bugarija Boris I

Site ivzori za Samuil ukazhuvat deka negovata dvrazha e prodolzhenie i priemnik na drzavata na Simeon i Petar. Bugarite sa sloveni i hrustiani sled krayot na 9 vek

Ni eden izvor ne ukazhuva za nekakvi si makedonci, makedonska drzvava i makedonski car. Ni eden, tova e izmisleno sled 1945 vo Jugoslavia so cel pranje na mozoci.





A koj go opismenil bugarskiot car Boris? Toa shto car Samuil ne bil Makedonc, ne znachi deka togash ne postoele Makedonci. Vsushnost, vizantiskiot imperator Vasilij II, koj ja razbil Samuilovata armija bil Makedonec.
Drzhava NE SE IZMISLUVA, tuku se SOZDAVA I FORMIRA. Koj mozhe da reche deka Evreite ne postoele do 1947g., samo zatoa shto dotogash nemale drzhava? Analogichno, i makedonskiot
narod postoel niz vekovite, no makedonskata drzhava bila sozdadena duri vo minatiot vek,
dodeka teritorijata sekogash go imala istoto ime: MAKEDONIJA!
Na pr: Romite, Baskite, k*rdite i dr. narodi seushte nemaat svoi drzhavi, sepak imaat
nacionalen identitet (nacionalno bitie). Mozhebi, nekogash i tie kje sozdadat svoi
drzhavi, shto nema da znachi deka dotogash ne postoele.
Postoi razlika pomegju drzhavno (politichko), nacionalno (narodno) i versko (duhovno) bitie. Ako eden narod nema svoja drzhava, neznachi deka toj ne postoi, i deka nema
nacionalno i duhovno bitie. Ako se vratime nazad vo istorijata, so cel da napravime
pregled na narodite, drzhavite i religiite, kje sogledame deka ovoj fakt odsekogash
bil ocheviden. Toa, shto ti ne ja svakjash smislata i sushtinata na istorijata e tvoj
problem, i ne znachi deka nie - Makedoncite sme so isprani mozoci. Naprotiv, bugarskata
vlast so vekovi uspeshno sproveduva psiholoshka tortura vrz Makedoncite vo Bugarija,
chija nacionalna svest e delumno ili potpolno isprana, osobeno kaj pomladite generacii.
Pr: Mojata baba (na dedo mi sestra), koja e rodena i izrasnata vo Egejska Makedonija,
so svoeto semejstvo za vreme na komunizmot emigrira vo Sofija. Taa zboruvashe na
makedonski so dijalekt i na grchki jazik, i nikogash (do svojata smrt) nacionalno ne se
prizna za Bugarka, dodeka nejzinite deca i vnuci, koi se obrazovani vo bugarski
uchilishta, zhiveat i se dvizhat vo bugarsko opshtestvo, imaat bugarska nacionalna svest.
Kako e mozhno od edna familija so isto prezime, edni da bidat Bugari, drugi Grci (mladite
generacii, koi shto ostanaa vo Grcija), a treti da se Makedonci?
Za srekja, jas imav mozhnost lichno da gi zapoznaam moite prababi, babi i dedovci, koi nikogash i nitu ednash ne se izjasnija, ni osoznaa vo bilo koja druga nacija, osven makedonskata, iako sovrsheno zboruvaa i pishuvaa na grchki (imaa grchko obrazovanie).
Sega, ti obidi se samata pred sebe da odgovorish: chij mozok e ispran?
Poentata mi beshe: MAKEDONCITE POSTOELE I POSTOJAT NEZAVISNO OD CAR SAMUIL, KOJ VO
ISTORIJATA OPFAKJA PERIOD - NESHTO POVEKJE OD EDNA DECENIJA, DODEKA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD POSTOEL DO NEGO, I PO NEGO, POSTOI!



 komunist
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Originally posted by komunist
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